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Discussion Board Lecture 11

Small typos in Lemma 11.11

[#44]

Dear ISem team,

in the second line of the proof of part (ii) it should read

$ \rho_k\ast\tilde{u}\in C_c^{\infty}(\mathbb{R}^n) $

and

$ (\rho_k\ast\tilde{u})|_{\Omega}\rightarrow u $ in $ H_0^1(\Omega) $,

am I right?

Best regards Christian Schöner

Posted by CAS on 28 January 2015 at 18:20.

Dear Christian,

`no' to both questions. The point is that for large $ k $ the support of $ \rho_k*\tilde u $ `contracts' to the support of $ u $, and therefore is a compact subset of $ \Omega $. (Well, in a sense you are right; our formulation is a short form of: $ \mathop{\rm spt}(\rho_k*\tilde u)\subseteq\Omega $ for large $ k $, and for these $ k $ one has $ (\rho_k*\tilde u)|_{\Omega}\in C_{\rm c}^\infty(\Omega) $.)

And for the second question: The point is that the approximating functions belong to $ C_{\rm c}^\infty(\Omega) $ and converge in $ H^1(\Omega) $ to $ u $. This shows that $ u $ belongs to the closure of $ C_{\rm c}^\infty(\Omega) $ in $ H^1(\Omega) $, i.e., to $ H^1_0(\Omega) $. (Then, naturally, the sequence converges to $ u $ also in $ H^1_0(\Omega) $.)

Best wishes, Jürgen

Posted by JürgenVoigt (administrator) on 28 January 2015 at 20:45.

Dear Jürgen,

thank you very much for your comments.

Unfortunately, I miss-typed my second question, I meant to say: Shouldn't it read $ \rightarrow u $ instead of $ \rightarrow \tilde{u} $ in $ H^1(\Omega) $?

Best regards, Christian

Posted by CAS on 28 January 2015 at 21:14.

Dear Christian,

there are so many possibilities to make mistakes! (I made this experience every week during the last time.) You are absolutely correct there; it should read $ \to u $. Thanks for pointing it out! (And I have to apologise for not reading your second comment more carefully.)

Best wishes, Jürgen

Posted by JürgenVoigt (administrator) on 28 January 2015 at 22:30.
Edited by JürgenVoigt (administrator) on 28 January 2015 at 22:41.

Dear Jürgen,

so at least I wasn't completely off in the end ;)

Best regards, Christian

Posted by CAS on 30 January 2015 at 00:27.

Dear Christian,

actually, your first question was helpful, too! In the corrected version we will write that the restriction of $ \rho_k*\tilde u $ to $ \Omega $ belongs to $ C^\infty_c(\Omega) $. (Why not make it really correct, if it's possible?) Thanks!

Best wishes, Jürgen

Posted by JürgenVoigt (administrator) on 30 January 2015 at 12:12.
Edited by JürgenVoigt (administrator) on 30 January 2015 at 12:13.

A question regarding Proposition 11.9 and two small remarks

[#38]

Dear ISEM team,

at the inequality of Lemma 11.1 you write $ (u,v \in V) $, but there appears no $ v $.

In section 11.2, you write that the ellipticity condition should hold for $ (\xi \in \mathbb{K}^n) $. It just needs to hold for almost every $ \xi \in \mathbb{K}^n $.

And last but not least the question. In the proof of proposition 11.9 you work with $ u_k^+ $ instead of just $ u_k $. But I do not see why.

Best wishes

Anton

Posted by Anton Seyfert on 19 January 2015 at 15:56.
Edited by Anton Seyfert on 19 January 2015 at 15:58.

Dear Anton,

thanks a lot for your comments.

In Lemma 11.1 there should be no $ v $, right!

In Section 11.2, do you mean almost every $ x\in\Omega $? Then I agree with you. If you do mean $ \xi $, then I don't understand that.

As for the proof of Prop. 11.9, I also don't see why we work with $ u_k^+ $. We want compact support, and for this we can (should!) just work with $ u_k $. Thanks for pointing that out!

Viele Grüße,  Hendrik

Posted by Hendrik Vogt (administrator) on 19 January 2015 at 19:22.

Dear Hendrik,

yes, I messed this up and meant almost every $ x\in\Omega $

Best wishes

Anton

Posted by Anton Seyfert on 19 January 2015 at 20:16.

Proof of theorem 11.14

[#34]

Dear ISEM-Team,

I'm not sure I understand the second equality in the first calculation of the proof of theorem 11.14:

When I try to calculate $ \int c_j (u \wedge 1) \partial_j(u-1)^+ $ I do not get the result $ \int c_j \partial_j (u-1)^+ $ that's asserted in the proof. We have $ \partial_j(u-1)^+ = \mathbf 1_{[u \geq 1]} \partial_j u $ and $ u \wedge 1 \cdot \mathbf 1_{[u \geq 1]} = 1 $ so by my calculation we should get $ (u \wedge 1) \partial_j(u-1)^+ =\partial_j u $. What am I overlooking?

Best regards, Clemens Bombach


Posted by Bcle on 14 January 2015 at 17:47.
Edited by Bcle on 14 January 2015 at 17:50.

Dear Clemens,

just note that $ \partial_j(u-1)^+ = \mathbf{1}_{[u\geq 1]} \partial_j(u-1)^+ $ and $ (u\wedge 1) \cdot \mathbf{1}_{[u\geq 1]} = \mathbf{1}_{[u\geq 1]} $. Does this help?

Best wishes, Christian

Posted by ChristianSeifert (administrator) on 14 January 2015 at 21:19.

Dear Christian, I understand the proof now. Thank you for your reply. Best regards, Clemens.

Posted by Bcle on 19 January 2015 at 14:25.

Missing hypothesis in Exercise 11.5?

[#33]

Dear ISem team,

By following the steps in the proof of Theorem 11.19, my solution to Exercise 11.5 would require that $ b(u^+,u^-)=0 $ for all $ u\in V $. Is this hypothesis missing in the statement or I just didn't try hard?

Best,

Jamil

Posted by Jamil on 13 January 2015 at 18:36.
Edited by Jamil on 13 January 2015 at 18:39.

Dear Jamil,

maybe you should have a look at Theorem 10.12. Thanks for the question.

Best wishes, and good success! Jürgen

Posted by JürgenVoigt (administrator) on 13 January 2015 at 19:59.

Dear Jürgen,

Sure, Theorem 10.12(b) does the job. I overlooked it.

Thanks!

Posted by Jamil on 13 January 2015 at 20:08.