discussion:lecture10

Discussion on Lecture 10

Discussion on Lecture 10

Peer Kunstmann, 2023/01/30 14:43, 2023/01/30 15:00

Dear lecturers,

I am a bit late … Nevertheless, two remarks on the proof of Lemma 8.5:

- On p. 121, line -3, the left hand side should be divided by m(x).

- On p. 122, line 4, it should read b(x,y)(u(x)f(x)−u(y)f(y)).

In Corollary 8.8 (p. 123) it should read …≥Qu(φ/u)≥0, since Theorem 8.7 yields =Qu(φ/u) in line 6 of the proof (of Corollary 8.8). Moreover, this is what is written in the proof of Theorem 8.10 (p. 124, line 17).

Best, Peer

Christian Seifert, 2023/01/30 16:38

Dear Peer,

Many thanks for spotting the typos!

Best, Christian

Patrizio Bifulco, 2023/01/27 09:40

Dear lecturers,

many thanks for this very interesting lecture!

In Bonus Exercise 1, I believe you want the graph to be connected and u non-trivial, right?

Otherwise, in the case that the underlying graph is not connected, one can consider a graph with three vertices x,y,z and one edge connecting two of them, say x and y (and no potential, i.e. c≡0). Then for u given by u(x)=u(y)=1 and u(z)=0 and w=1−u we get (L−w)u=0 but also 0=Deg(z)<w(z)=1.

In the case that u≡0, one can consider a path graph with two vertices and standard weights and just choose w:X→R larger than 1 in one of the vertices.

Best wishes, Patrizio

Christian Seifert, 2023/01/30 16:33

Dear Patrizio,

Many thanks; your are right soncerning the two assumptions.

Best, Christian

Joachim Hofmann, 2023/01/18 11:57

Dear all,

first of all thanks for the new lecture to the organisers. I have the following problem: In the last part of proof of Theorem 8.1 respectively in Remark 8.2 it is not clear to me why there is no non-trivial supersolution for λ=deg(x)m(x) in the case where the infimum is not attained.

And does non-trivial also mean non-constant? Because if we allow constants I think I found the following counter-example: Let X:=N, b(x,y):=|x−y|, if |x−y|=1 and 0 otherwise, m(x):=x as well as c=0. Then infx∈Xdeg(x)m(x)=0 is not attained but for λ=0 any positive constant function u satisfies (L−λ)u=0, i.e. u is a supersolution.

Best, Joachim.

Marcel Schmidt, 2023/01/25 11:12, 2023/01/25 11:15

Dear Joachim,

you are correct, there is a mistake in the text. By a non-trvial supersolution we mean a supersolution f≠0. In this sense constant functions are non-trivial.

The following is true: In the proof of Theorem 8.1 we show that if there is a nontrivial supersolution to λ, then deg⁡(x)/m(x)>λ for every x∈X (this uses connectedness of the graph).

At the end of the proof of Theorem 8.1 one needs to justify that for any path x0,…,xn from x to x∗ the constant

Cx,x∗(λ)=∏j=0n−1deg⁡(xj)−λm(xj)b(xj,xj+1)

is positive for 'relevant' λ, i.e., for λ with a non-trivial supersolution. But this is guaranteed by the observation deg⁡(x)/m(x)>λ for every x∈X if there exists a non-trivial supersolution to λ.

My argument also shows that if λ>infx∈Xdeg⁡(x)/m(x), then there is no non-trivial supersolution to λ. Hence, Remark 8.2 should be adjusted.

Best Marcel

Anna Muranova, 2023/01/17 20:03

Dear lecturers,

thank you for the lecture!

1. I suspect that in Lemma 8.5 it should be Lu=Lbu,u2wm,u2m instead Lu=Lbu,u2w,u2m (i.e. one m is missing on the rhs), isn't it? Then in the first equation in the proof there should be additionally m(x) on the l.h.s.

2. Is the fact that (L−λ)−11o in the very beginning of the proof of Theorem 8.10 obvious or mentioned somewher before?

3 Shoudn't at the end of the proof of Theorem 9.7 be w(x):=1v(x)Lv(x) (without m(x))?

Best, Anna

With the best wishes, Anna

Joachim Hofmann, 2023/01/18 11:33

Dear Anna,

1. I think you are right about this one.

2. Do you mean that (L−λ)−11o is non-trivial and positive? That would be because the graph is assumed to be connected so that the resolvent (L−λ)−1 is positivity improving.

3. I was asking myself the same question. The funtcion w defined in the proof of Theorem 9.7 is the function w that we need for (ii) in Theorem 9.7 and not the function to which we apply Theorem 8.7. For the application of Theorem 8.7 we need the funtion w~(x):=1v(x)Lv(x), as you mentioned yourself.

Best, Joachim

Marcel Schmidt, 2023/01/25 11:50, 2023/01/25 12:01

Dear Anna and Joachim,

I think Joachim's answers are correct.

Concerning 3: The usage of w in the proof of Theorem 9.7 and Theorem 8.7 is indeed not consistent but this is just a matter of scaling. Since m is strictly positive, in the formulation of Theorem 9.7 one could replace (ii) by the following:

(ii)' There exists a non-trivial w≥0 such that

Q(φ)≥∑x∈Xφ(x)2w(x)m(x)

for all φ∈Cc(X).

With this convention w in the proof of Theorem~9.7 and in the Theorem on the ground state transform are compatible.

Personally I prefer (ii)' because (ii) somehow treats the counting measure as the canonical underlying measure on a discrete space, whereas (ii)' refers to the measure m, which is also utilized when defining the Green function. Even though recurrence/transience does not depend on the choice of the measure, (ii)' is more in line with the philosophy that Qb,c on ℓ2(X,m) is a toy model for regular Dirichlet forms, where in general one does not have a distinguished measure on the underlying space.

Best Marcel

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