I have a small question concerning the definition of regular Dirichlet forms. You require that D(Q)∩Cc should be dense in Cc with respect to the supremum norm and in D(Q) with respect to the Q-Norm in the definition. After that, you claim that regularity is equivalent to ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Q|Cc=Q and it is written that one implication is obvious. How could I derive the densitiy of Cc∩D(Q) in Cc with respect to ∥⋅∥∞ from ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Q|Cc=Q?
Best regards
Sascha
Marcel Schmidt, 2022/12/01 14:35
Dear Sascha,
I think the formulation in the text is a bit misleading. What was meant is that Q is regular if and only if Cc(X)⊆D(Q) and Q is the closure of Q|Cc(X).
Best,
Marcel
Sascha Trostorff, 2022/12/02 11:32
Dear Marcel,
thanks a lot for the answer.
Best regards
Sascha
Peer Kunstmann, 2022/11/28 15:32
Dear virtual lecturer,
thank you very much for the nice lecture.
Some comments:
1) A typo on p. 76, proof of Lemma 4.7: In (a) it should read ≥0 at the end, not ≤0.
2) On p.78, line 3, it would be nice to recall what F is.
3) For the formula of Q(φ,f) in line 7 (p. 78) one could mention that φ∈Cc(X).
4) D(L(D))⊆F should already be mentioned in the statement of Theorem 4.9 (it is, of course, in the proof).
Best, Peer
Christian Seifert, 2022/11/29 17:18
Dear Peer,
Many thanks. I adjusted the notes accordingly.
Best,
Christian
Sahiba Arora, 2022/11/24 16:49
Dear lecturers, dear all,
Thanks for the really interesting lecture. I found this lecture particularly easy to follow and enjoyed reading it.
I'm curious about the converse of Exercise 4, Dirichlet and Neumann forms: what is in between? :)
actually we wrote an article which characterizes all Dirichlet forms Q with D(Q(D))⊆D(Q)⊆D(Q(N)) and Q(f)=Q(D) for all f∈D(Q(D)):
Keller, Matthias; Lenz, Daniel; Schmidt, Marcel; Schwarz, Michael
Boundary representation of Dirichlet forms on discrete spaces.
J. Math. Pures Appl. (9) 126 (2019), 109–143.
The short (sketchy) answer is the following: If Q is such a Dirichlet form, then the following holds: There exists a (not necessarily densely defined) Dirichlet form q on L2(∂X,μ) with D(q)=TrD(Q)⊆D(qDN) such that q−qDN (defined on D(q)) is Markovian and
Q(f)=Q(N)(f)+q(Trf)−qDN(Trf),f∈D(Q).
Here: ∂X is the Royden boundary of the graph, μ is a harmonic measure and Tr:D(Q(N))→L2(∂X,μ) is a suitable trace map. Moreover, qDN is the Dirichlet to Neumann form on L2(∂X,μ).
Conversely, any (not necessarily densely defined) Dirichlet form on L2(∂X,μ) with D(q)⊆D(qDN) for which q−qDN is Markovian yields a form Qq between Q(D) and Q(N) by letting D(Qq)={f∈D(Q(N))∣Trf∈D(q)} and
Qq(f)=Q(N)(f)+q(Trf)−qDN(Trf).
As mentioned above the map q↦Qq is surjective but may not be injective. For example if m≥α for some α>0, then Q(D)=Q(N) (this will be discussed in a later lecture) but the Royden boundary ∂X and the set of Dirichlet forms on it may be large.
Best,
Marcel
discussion/lecture06.txt · Last modified: 2022/11/15 18:10 by matcs
Discussion on Lecture 06
Hello,
Thanks for this sixth lecture.
Dear ISEM-Team,
I have a small question concerning the definition of regular Dirichlet forms. You require that D(Q)∩Cc should be dense in Cc with respect to the supremum norm and in D(Q) with respect to the Q-Norm in the definition. After that, you claim that regularity is equivalent to ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Q|Cc=Q and it is written that one implication is obvious. How could I derive the densitiy of Cc∩D(Q) in Cc with respect to ∥⋅∥∞ from ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Q|Cc=Q?
Best regards Sascha
Dear Sascha,
I think the formulation in the text is a bit misleading. What was meant is that Q is regular if and only if Cc(X)⊆D(Q) and Q is the closure of Q|Cc(X).
Best, Marcel
Dear Marcel,
thanks a lot for the answer.
Best regards Sascha
Dear virtual lecturer,
thank you very much for the nice lecture.
Some comments:
1) A typo on p. 76, proof of Lemma 4.7: In (a) it should read ≥0 at the end, not ≤0.
2) On p.78, line 3, it would be nice to recall what F is.
3) For the formula of Q(φ,f) in line 7 (p. 78) one could mention that φ∈Cc(X).
4) D(L(D))⊆F should already be mentioned in the statement of Theorem 4.9 (it is, of course, in the proof).
Best, Peer
Dear Peer,
Many thanks. I adjusted the notes accordingly.
Best, Christian
Dear lecturers, dear all,
Thanks for the really interesting lecture. I found this lecture particularly easy to follow and enjoyed reading it.
I'm curious about the converse of Exercise 4, Dirichlet and Neumann forms: what is in between? :)
Regards, Sahiba
Dear Sahiba,
actually we wrote an article which characterizes all Dirichlet forms Q with D(Q(D))⊆D(Q)⊆D(Q(N)) and Q(f)=Q(D) for all f∈D(Q(D)):
Keller, Matthias; Lenz, Daniel; Schmidt, Marcel; Schwarz, Michael Boundary representation of Dirichlet forms on discrete spaces. J. Math. Pures Appl. (9) 126 (2019), 109–143.
The short (sketchy) answer is the following: If Q is such a Dirichlet form, then the following holds: There exists a (not necessarily densely defined) Dirichlet form q on L2(∂X,μ) with D(q)=TrD(Q)⊆D(qDN) such that q−qDN (defined on D(q)) is Markovian and
Q(f)=Q(N)(f)+q(Trf)−qDN(Trf),f∈D(Q).
Here: ∂X is the Royden boundary of the graph, μ is a harmonic measure and Tr:D(Q(N))→L2(∂X,μ) is a suitable trace map. Moreover, qDN is the Dirichlet to Neumann form on L2(∂X,μ).
Conversely, any (not necessarily densely defined) Dirichlet form on L2(∂X,μ) with D(q)⊆D(qDN) for which q−qDN is Markovian yields a form Qq between Q(D) and Q(N) by letting D(Qq)={f∈D(Q(N))∣Trf∈D(q)} and
Qq(f)=Q(N)(f)+q(Trf)−qDN(Trf).
As mentioned above the map q↦Qq is surjective but may not be injective. For example if m≥α for some α>0, then Q(D)=Q(N) (this will be discussed in a later lecture) but the Royden boundary ∂X and the set of Dirichlet forms on it may be large.
Best, Marcel