discussion:lecture_08

Discussion on Lecture 08

Discussion on Lecture 08

Jürgen Voigt, 2019/12/17 23:17

Dear virtual lecturers,

just some minor comments.

I would call the “surjective isometry” in Corollary 8.1.3 an “isometric isomorphism”; in particular the latter includes the isomorphism of the linear structure.

Am I correct that the operator L is defined in Corollary 8.1.3? Maybe one should inform the reader that this is the Laplace transformation?

The notion `autonomous' plays a major role in the second part of the lecture. Maybe it deserves to be defined in the text, and not only in an exercise.

I am not particularly excited about the notation R0 etc., in particular if it occurs in the index in such quantity as on p.100. I completely agree that this is personal taste, but for reading I would prefer [0,), and similarly for other intervals in R.

Best wishes, Jürgen

Marcus Waurick, 2019/12/18 14:56

Dear Jürgen,

thank you for your comments.

You are right, isometric isomorphism is better than the wording we chose.

The operator L is defined in Corollary 8.1.3. Yes, this operator can be called (and in fact is called the) Laplace transformation. We refrained from using this notion because the already mentioned and related transformations Fourier and Fourier-Laplace act very differently in comparison to L (the target space are functions on half-planes and not functions on R; also the functions L is applied to are functions living on R0 or [0,) only).

Autonomous does deserve a definition in the text, yes.

Best regards,

Marcus

Markus Borkowski, 2019/12/12 22:36, 2019/12/12 23:01

Dear virtual lecturers,

I would like to share some comments from our meeting in Darmstadt.

  1. On page 94 in the first section the text mentions a 'result which characterises functions in L2 with support contained in the non-negative reals'. We claim it is reasonable to say instead that the result characterises the Laplace transform of functions in L2 with support contained in the non-negative reals.
  2. In Lemma 8.1.1 is notational confusion. The first equation of its proof suggests that the function f is zero almost everywhere in the negative reals. But it is not clear that this should hold by the current notation. Either you say that this is contained in the definition of L2(\R0;H) or you say it explicitly. In any case a further comment is necessary.
  3. On page 95 in the last equation of the same proof on the right-hand it has to be C2 instead of C.

Best regards

Team Darmstadt

(How do you write the symbol for the real numbers here?)

Marcus Waurick, 2019/12/13 08:29

Dear Team Darmsadt, dear Markus,

thank you for your comments.

  1. You are right; your suggestion is reasonable. However, we deliberately used our less detailed (nonetheless correct) phrase since due to having causality in mind, we are really after useful characterisations of L2(R)-functions supported on [0,) only.
  2. Yes, we should have pointed out that we view L2(R0;H) as subspace of L2(R;H) by extending elements in the former space by 0 to obtain an element in the latter space.
  3. You are right, thanks!

Best regards,

MM

PS: R is encoded by \mathbb{R} in math mode.

Sascha Trostorff, 2019/12/11 09:40

Dear all,

in Exercise 8.5 there is a small misprint. The distribution u should be defined by u(ψ):=Lνh(i+ν),(t,ν)kψL2,ν. Note that the k in the exponent of the adjoint of the time derivative is missing in the lecture notes.

Best regards

Sascha

Hendrik Vogt, 2019/12/05 18:54, 2019/12/18 23:01

Dear all,

I'd like to offer an alternative proof of Theorem 8.2.4 that works without Lemma 8.2.2. I do not claim that my proof is simpler, but I find it more direct because I start with the definition of M. To simplify notation, I use an alternative definition of L that omits the factor 1/2π1/2π; this doesn't change anything in the assertion of the theorem.

The idea is as follows: if a mapping M as asserted exists, then LTf(z)=M(z)Lf(z) holds for f=fx:=1(0,1)x, where xH. For this function fx I compute Lfx(z)=10eztxdt=1ezzx. Plugging this into LTfx(z)=M(z)Lfx(z), we see that M must be given by M(z)x:=z1ezLTfx(z)(xH).

It is readily seen that (1) defines a holomorphic function M:CRe>0L(H). We have to show that M is bounded and satisfies the asserted equality for all fL2(R0;H) and not just for f=fx. To prove the latter, I use the fact that the set {1(a,a+1/n)x;a0, nN, xH} is total in L2(R0;H), which is why we only have to show that (LT(1(a,a+1/n)x))(z)=M(z)(L(1(a,a+1/n)x))(z) for all a0, nN, xH, zCRe>0.

For the proof of (2) observe that T(1(a,a+1/n)x)=T(1(0,1/n)x(a))=T(1(0,1/n)x)(a) since T is autonomous. Moreover, by a straightforward computation, L(f(a))(z)=ezaLf(z) for all fL2(R0;H); in particular, (LT(1(a,a+1/n)x))(z)=eza(LT(1(0,1/n)x))(z). Thus one sees that it suffices to show (2) in the case a=0. Also, LTfx(z)=n1k=0(LT(1(k/n,(k+1)/n)x))(z)=n1k=0ezk/n(LT(1(0,1/n)x))(z)=1ez1ez/n(LT(1(0,1/n)x))(z), which by (1) and the identity (L(1(0,1/n)x))(z)=(1ez/n)x/z implies that (LT(1(0,1/n)x))(z)=1ez/nzM(z)x=M(z)(L(1(0,1/n)x))(z). This concludes the proof of (2).

EDIT: Finally we show that M is bounded. Let zCRe>0 and xH. Let f:=1R0eˉzx and c:=2Rez. Then Lf(z)=0eztˉztxdt=x/c. Since LTf(z)=M(z)Lf(z) (as shown above), we obtain M(z)x=cLTf(z) and hence M(z)xc0eztTf(t)dtc1R0ezL2(R)TfL2(R;H)c1R0ez2L2(R)Tx=Tx (note that fL2(R;H)=1R0ezL2(R)x). Thus we have shown that M(z)T.

Best wishes, Hendrik


From an old version of this post, just kept for documentation:

I just indicate how to prove the boundedness of M. One shows that the multiplicator Ma:=M(+ia) corresponds to the causal autonomous operator Ta:=eiamTeiam, for all aR; note that Ta=T. Similarly, the multiplicator Mr:=M(r) corresponds to the causal autonomous operator ˜Tr:=S1/rTSr for all r>0, where Srf:=f(r); note that ˜Tr=T. Using these two transformations one shows that M(z)=˜M(1), with some ˜M corresponding to a rescaled operator ˜T that has the same norm as T. Finally, (1) implies that ˜M(1)c˜T=cT with a constant c depending neither on M nor on z.

Jürgen Voigt, 2019/12/17 22:51, 2019/12/18 21:25

Dear Hendrik,

EDIT: The following comment refers to that part of Hendrik's first communication, which is still in his post as “From an old version”, and which he rectified after my post. End EDIT.

I have a question concerning the last part of your post (“I just indicate …”).

I am not quite sure what you mean by “multiplicator” on the first line. Let me formulate it as understanding that, given aR, Ma is the function constructed as previously, but now for the operator Ta on line 2, and then the claim is that Ma=M(+ia). (Is this what you are stating?). My question is how you know this. The operator Ma(z) is determined by the action of Ta on the total set mentioned previously, and so is the value of operator M(z+ia). However, this total set is not invariant under the multiplication by eiam. What is the argument I am misinterpreting?

On the last two lines you use a rescaled operator ˜M. I think it would be better to use the notation ˜Mz (and then also ˜Tz), because otherwise the equations seem to imply that M(z) is independent of z.

Best wishes, Jürgen

Hendrik Vogt, 2019/12/18 18:40

Dear Jürgen,

I edited my post above to include a different (complete and concise) proof of the boundedness of M.

Best wishes, Hendrik

Marcus Waurick, 2019/12/18 19:05

Dear Hendrik,

Thank you very much for your different proof! This is way better and more intuitive than the one presented in the lecture notes.

Best regards,

moppi

Jürgen Voigt, 2019/12/05 01:14

Dear virtual lecturers,

concerning the proof of Lemma 8.1.1: For the second part (starting on p.95) I prefer less computational arguments. On (,0) the inequality supν>0(,0)f(t)2e2νtdt< together with the monotone convergence theorem (Beppo Levi) implies that g(t):=limνf(t)2e2νt (t<0) defines a function gL1(,0). Then [g=] is a null set, and on the complement of this null set one has f(t)=0. And on [0,) the inequality supν>0[0,)f(t)2e2νtdt< together with the monotone convergence theorem (Beppo Levi) implies that limν0f(t)2e2νt=f(t)2 yields a function f()2L1([0,)).

Concerning Theorem 8.1.2: As a preparation and motivation I would have expected a statement that, for any fL2([0,);H), the definition g(i+ν):=Lνf(ν>0) yields an element of H2(CRe>0;H), with the equality of the norms on the last line of Theorem 8.1.2. (The holomorphy of g follows from the formula g(z)=12πeizxf(x)dx (Rez>0).) These properties, together with the linearity of the mapping fg thus defined also yields the asserted uniqueness statement in the theorem (whose proof I didn't see in the lecture notes).

(I hope I didn't overlook some part of the lecture notes where some of these properties had already been mentioned. But in this case a hint to these parts should have been included.)

Best wishes, Jürgen

Sascha Trostorff, 2019/12/05 14:02, 2019/12/05 14:02

Dear Jürgen,

thanks for your comments.

Concerning Theorem 8.1.2: We decided to put the surjectivity part of Corollary 8.1.3 into this Theorem, since this is the hard part to do. What you suggest, is then done at the beginning of the proof of Corollary 8.1.3. And the uniqueness statement in Theorem 8.1.2 is immediate from the injectivity of Lν (which we have should mention anyway).

Best regards

Sascha

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