here's a late comment on Example 2.4.2. I would simplify the proof of the inclusion V(m)∗⊆V∗(m) as follows: Let u∈dom(V(m)∗). Then for all f∈L2(μ) and n∈N we know that 1nf∈dom(V(m)), so
⟨f,1nV∗u⟩=⟨V(m)(1nf),u⟩=⟨1nf,V(m)∗u⟩=⟨f,1nV(m)∗u⟩,
and it follows that 1nV∗u=1nV(m)∗u for all n∈N. Recalling ⋃n∈NΩn=Ω we conclude that V∗u=V(m)∗u∈L2(μ) and therefore u∈dom(V∗(m)), V∗(m)u=V(m)∗u, which proves the desired inclusion.
(Note that I distinguish between the notations V∗u and V∗(m)u: for the latter I need to know that u∈dom(V∗(m)), for the former I don't; V∗u just denotes the product of two functions!)
Best wishes, Hendrik
Fabian Gabel, 2019/11/06 13:59, 2019/11/06 16:54
Dear all,
in Example 2.4.2 we considered the multiplication operator V(m) induced by an L2(μ) function V∈L∞(μ) and show its boundedness. In particular we see that
‖V(m)‖L(L2(μ))≤‖V‖∞.
This raises the question whether we can also obtain equality, i.e. an isometric mapping L∞(μ)→L(L2(μ)),V↦V(m).
This question should have a positive answer in semi-finite measure spaces (I hope the following does not contain too many errors):
For ε>0, set Aε:=[V≥‖V‖∞−ε] and choose Bε⊆Aε with 0<μ(Bε)<∞.
Then
‖V(m)1Bεμ(Bε)‖2=1μ(Bε)‖V1Bε‖2≥‖V‖∞−ε
for all ε>0 which shows that ‖V(m)‖L(L2(μ))≥‖V‖∞.
Do you know a counterexample to the isometry of mapping (1) in measure spaces that are not semi-finite?
Best wishes,
Fabian
Sascha Trostorff, 2019/11/06 14:32
Dear Fabian,
thanks for that interesting question. After a short discussion here in Kiel I can give the answer: In every non semi-finite measure space you can find a multiplier V, such that ‖V(m)‖<‖V‖∞.
For doing so, assume that your measure space is not semi-finite and choose a measurable A with μ(A)=∞ such that for each measurable B⊆A you have μ(B)∈{0,∞}. Then you set V:=1A. Clearly, V∈L∞(μ) and ‖V‖∞=1. However, V(m)=0, since for each f∈L2(μ) you have that sptf=⋃n∈N[|f|²≥n−1], which shows that sptf is σ-finite. Hence, so is the support of 1A(m)f, which yields that the measure of this support is 0 by the property of A. Thus 1A(m)f=0 and so ‖V(m)‖=0<1=‖V‖∞.
Best regards
Sascha
Fabian Gabel, 2019/11/06 17:19
Dear Sascha,
thanks for your quick response and the illuminating example. Apparently, a pathological (my opinion) non-semi-finite measure space induces a pathological L2 space: If I'm not mistaken, your proof shows that each non-zero integrable function must be supported outside of the sets that destroy semi-finiteness.
Best wishes,
Fabian
Jürgen Voigt, 2019/11/07 11:31
Dear Fabian,
as you seem to be interested in “pathological” measure spaces, I recommend to have a look at Section 2 of the paper “Bands in Lp-spaces”, Math. Nachr. 290, 632-638 (2017), by Hendrik and myself. In particular, for each measure space (Ω,A,μ) one can construct a σ-algebra Aloc and a semi-finite measure μloc, such that for p∈[1,∞) the Lp-spaces over the two measure spaces are “the same”.
Best wishes, Jürgen
Sahiba Arora, 2019/11/06 02:03
The provided solutions to Exercise 2.7 assume that C is non-empty. I would like to complete the solutions by considering the case if C is an empty set.
Let H=L2[0,1],dom(A)={f∈H:f is absolutely continuous,f(0)=0 and f′∈H},Af=f′ for all f∈dom(A).
Let λ∈C. For g∈H define (Bg)x=−∫x0eλ(x−t)g(t)dt. An easy computation gives (λ−A)B=I. Therefore λ∈ρ(A).
This gives that ρ(A)=C and hence σ(A)=∅.
Sascha Trostorff, 2019/11/06 09:40
Dear Sahiba,
thanks for your nice solution.
Best regards
Sascha
Fabian Gabel, 2019/11/04 22:38
Dear Isem-Team,
a minor remark:
p.20, l.9: I think the stated equality should instead be an inequality since we have
thanks for your comment! I have difficulties to understand your remark, though. We have ∑∞k=0qk=11−q given |q|<1. Summing from k=1 instead of k=0 would result in your formula. In the given situation, we need to start summation from k=0, though.
Best regards,
moppi
Fabian Gabel, 2019/11/05 08:14
Dear Moppi,
thanks for your reply and pointing out my mistake. Apparently I misread the sum.
Best wishes,
Fabian
Hendrik Vogt, 2019/11/04 17:09
Dear all,
here are some more comments from Bremen.
1. On page 12, line -7 I would just say that A is called linear if it is a linear subspace of X0×X1 (even though this sounds rather tautological).
2. The equality (2.1) follows from the first equality in Theorem 2.2.5, applied to the relation A−1: One obtains (ranA−1)⊥=ker(A−1)∗ and thus (domA)⊥=ker(A∗)−1=A∗[{0}].
3. I find the proof of Lemma 2.2.8 remarkable; the only proof I know uses the Fréchet-Riesz theorem, and it appears that this is not needed here. (Of course the projection theorem is used, which is not too far away from the Fréchet-Riesz theorem, but I still find the proof given here very nice.)
4. For Corollary 2.3.3 I was tempted to use Lemma 2.2.7, but unfortunately this is not possible since 2.2.7 assumes linearity while 2.3.3 does not.
Best wishes, Hendrik
Marcus Waurick, 2019/11/04 18:23, 2019/11/04 22:21
Dear Hendrik,
1. I like your version more than our's; so I think we'll change that in the final version. Thanks.
2. Nice. Thanks!
3. Thanks!
4. Good point! Apparently, we forgot to highlight that (2.1) also holds for arbitrary relations: In fact, (2.1) for linear relations implies (2.1) for arbitrary relations. Indeed, let B⊆H0×H1 be a relation; define B:=linA. Then dom(B)=lindom(A). Also, we have A∗=−(A⊥)−1=−(B⊥)−1=B∗. With these preparations, we can write
dom(A)⊥=(lindom(A))⊥=dom(B)⊥={v∈H0;(0,v)∈B∗}={v∈H0;(0,v)∈A∗}.
Now, as in the proof of Lemma 2.2.7, we see that the validity of (2.1) readily implies the equivalence
A∗ is an operator⟺A is densely defined.
Best regards,
moppi
Hendrik Vogt, 2019/11/05 09:44
Dear Moppi,
regarding 4.: Indeed, (2.1) holds always (as does the first equality in Theorem 2.2.5!) However, your concluded equivalence does not hold! Only the implication “A densely defined ⟹A∗ operator” is always valid; for the other implication you need linearity. But this is fine for Corollary 2.3.3
Best wishes, Hendrik
Marcus Waurick, 2019/11/05 10:16, 2019/11/05 23:33
Dear Hendrik,
ah, yes! I was too quick on this one: dom(A)⊥={0} can very well hold for non-vector space subsets dom(A) that are not dense (e.g. the unit ball). So for not necessarily linear relations A densely defined needs to be replaced by dom(A) is total. (I refuse calling this `totally defined'.)
Thank you!
Best regards,
moppi
Hendrik Vogt, 2019/11/01 17:18, 2019/11/01 17:23
Dear all,
here are a few comments from Bremen.
1. At the beginning of Section 2.1 I get the impression that a “bounded linear operator” from X0 to X1 is always defined on all of X0. This is in conflict with the later usage of “bounded”, e.g. in Lemma 2.1.3 and Corollary 2.1.5, where the operator need not be defined on all of X0.
2. Corollary 2.1.5 in this form is new to me – I like it
3. Is is mentioned anywhere that a bounded linear relation is always an operator? I found this helpful for Corollary 2.1.5.
4. I find it a bit odd that linearity of A∗+B∗ is mentioned in Corollary 2.3.3 but not in Theorem 2.3.2.
5. I would write down the proof of Proposition 2.3.8 like this, with the abbreviation A|D:=A∩(D×H1):
Dcore⟺¯A|D=¯A⟺¯A|D⊥=¯A⊥⟺(A|D)⊥=A⊥⟺(A|D)∗=A∗.
Best wishes, Hendrik
Marcus Waurick, 2019/11/01 18:41, 2019/11/01 18:42
Dear Hendrik,
thank you for your comments from Bremen.
1. We actually had the same impression in an earlier version of the manuscript. That is why we introduced `continuous'. Maybe a solution would be to abandon the word `bounded' in this motivational section altogether.
2. Thanks. ;)
3. No, we haven't mentioned this anywhere. Thanks for pointing this out. I do not see how this is of immediate help, though, as A is assumed to be an operator to begin with. However, this fact would immediately strengthen the statement in Corollary 2.1.5 as you would not need to assume that A is an operator.
4. You are right. Our emphasis in Corollary 2.3.3, however, was rather on `operator' and not so much on `linear'. One should skip `linear' in Corollary 2.3.3 then,
5. This is very nice. This is better than our proof. Thank you!
Best regards,
MM
Hendrik Vogt, 2019/11/04 13:55
Dear Moppi,
1. This sounds like a good idea
3. What I mean is the proof of Corollary 2.1.5: You'll only have to show that ¯A is bounded; then it immediately follows that it is an operator, and with the help of Lemma 2.1.3 one sees that the domain is X0.
Best wishes, Hendrik
Marcus Waurick, 2019/11/04 14:04
Dear Hendrik,
3. Ah, yes! Right on the money, thanks!
Regards,
moppi
Jonas Lenz, 2019/11/01 12:18
Dear virtual lectures,
here are some minor remarks from our group meeting in Darmstadt.
We thought that for consistency with Lecture 1 the title of the lecture should be “Unbounded Operators” and similarly in the other headings in this lecture.
On p.12 after the definition of L(X0,X1) we wondered whether there are unbounded operators defined on whole of X0 and, using the axiom of choice (to construct a Hamel basis), came up with an example. It was not clear to us whether an example of such an operator can be constructed without choice.
Maybe a formulation like: “… the latter only need to be defined on a subset of X0” would clarify that unbounded operators can be defined on the whole space, too.
p.13 l.1: for consistency reasons one might consider to change the order of “composition” and “scalar multiples” so that it fits with the order in the definition.
In Proposition 2.1.1. we were not sure whether there are any additional, reasonable assumptions under which CA would be closed, too.
on p.14 l.6: we think that it should be “as a Banach space in its own right”.
on p.20 l.-3: We think that there got a (m) missing and that it should be “If V≠0μ-a.e. then V(m) is injective…” (instead of “V is injective”).
Best, Jonas
Sascha Trostorff, 2019/11/01 13:32
Dear Jonas, dear Darmstadt team,
thanks for your remarks. We will correct the lecture according to your suggestions.
Concerning the question of closedness of CA, I am only aware of the assumption that C should be boundedly invertible, i.e., 0∈ρ(C).
Best regards
Sascha
Marcus Waurick, 2019/11/01 18:55
Dear Jonas,
it appears that your construction concerning an unbounded operator defined on the whole of X0 necessitates the axiom of choice. Although I have not found a very good reference for this, I found the article
rather illuminating. For this, see in particular the section `Role of the axiom of choice'.
Best regards,
MM
Michael Doherty, 2019/10/30 13:22, 2019/10/30 13:58
Dear Nathanael,
I think that the remark on the multivalued part has been alluded to in the notes already, despite not being explicated. When it says that we call a linear relation A a linear operator if
A[{0}]={y∈X1:(0,y)∈A}={0}.
The point is that, if this set coincides not just with {0}, then we would be dealing with the “multivalued part” of the operator.
Despite not being needed for what follows, it's interesting nonetheless to delve into. I really like the presentation in Arens on these ideas.
I want to mention that it might be a good idea to complement the notion ker, ran, and dom for a linear relation T between X0 and X1 by the multi-value partmulT={y∈X1:(0,y)∈T}.
This highlights the duality of ker, ran and mul, dom.
Marcus Waurick, 2019/10/30 12:25
Dear Nathanael,
thank you for your remark. You are right, it indeed highlights the duality between the concepts mentioned. For now, we refrained from introducing mul, because we have no application for this in mind in the lectures to come. Yet, it is a good point to raise, anyway.
Best regards,
MM
discussion/lecture_02.txt · Last modified: 2019/10/21 16:59 by matcs
Discussion on Lecture 02
Dear all,
here's a late comment on Example 2.4.2. I would simplify the proof of the inclusion V(m)∗⊆V∗(m) as follows: Let u∈dom(V(m)∗). Then for all f∈L2(μ) and n∈N we know that 1nf∈dom(V(m)), so ⟨f,1nV∗u⟩=⟨V(m)(1nf),u⟩=⟨1nf,V(m)∗u⟩=⟨f,1nV(m)∗u⟩, and it follows that 1nV∗u=1nV(m)∗u for all n∈N. Recalling ⋃n∈NΩn=Ω we conclude that V∗u=V(m)∗u∈L2(μ) and therefore u∈dom(V∗(m)), V∗(m)u=V(m)∗u, which proves the desired inclusion.
(Note that I distinguish between the notations V∗u and V∗(m)u: for the latter I need to know that u∈dom(V∗(m)), for the former I don't; V∗u just denotes the product of two functions!)
Best wishes, Hendrik
Dear all,
in Example 2.4.2 we considered the multiplication operator V(m) induced by an L2(μ) function V∈L∞(μ) and show its boundedness. In particular we see that ‖V(m)‖L(L2(μ))≤‖V‖∞.
This raises the question whether we can also obtain equality, i.e. an isometric mapping L∞(μ)→L(L2(μ)),V↦V(m).
This question should have a positive answer in semi-finite measure spaces (I hope the following does not contain too many errors):
For ε>0, set Aε:=[V≥‖V‖∞−ε] and choose Bε⊆Aε with 0<μ(Bε)<∞.
Then ‖V(m)1Bεμ(Bε)‖2=1μ(Bε)‖V1Bε‖2≥‖V‖∞−ε for all ε>0 which shows that ‖V(m)‖L(L2(μ))≥‖V‖∞.
Do you know a counterexample to the isometry of mapping (1) in measure spaces that are not semi-finite?
Best wishes, Fabian
Dear Fabian,
thanks for that interesting question. After a short discussion here in Kiel I can give the answer: In every non semi-finite measure space you can find a multiplier V, such that ‖V(m)‖<‖V‖∞.
For doing so, assume that your measure space is not semi-finite and choose a measurable A with μ(A)=∞ such that for each measurable B⊆A you have μ(B)∈{0,∞}. Then you set V:=1A. Clearly, V∈L∞(μ) and ‖V‖∞=1. However, V(m)=0, since for each f∈L2(μ) you have that sptf=⋃n∈N[|f|²≥n−1], which shows that sptf is σ-finite. Hence, so is the support of 1A(m)f, which yields that the measure of this support is 0 by the property of A. Thus 1A(m)f=0 and so ‖V(m)‖=0<1=‖V‖∞.
Best regards
Sascha
Dear Sascha,
thanks for your quick response and the illuminating example. Apparently, a pathological (my opinion) non-semi-finite measure space induces a pathological L2 space: If I'm not mistaken, your proof shows that each non-zero integrable function must be supported outside of the sets that destroy semi-finiteness.
Best wishes, Fabian
Dear Fabian,
as you seem to be interested in “pathological” measure spaces, I recommend to have a look at Section 2 of the paper “Bands in Lp-spaces”, Math. Nachr. 290, 632-638 (2017), by Hendrik and myself. In particular, for each measure space (Ω,A,μ) one can construct a σ-algebra Aloc and a semi-finite measure μloc, such that for p∈[1,∞) the Lp-spaces over the two measure spaces are “the same”.
Best wishes, Jürgen
The provided solutions to Exercise 2.7 assume that C is non-empty. I would like to complete the solutions by considering the case if C is an empty set.
Let H=L2[0,1],dom(A)={f∈H:f is absolutely continuous,f(0)=0 and f′∈H},Af=f′ for all f∈dom(A).
Let λ∈C. For g∈H define (Bg)x=−∫x0eλ(x−t)g(t) dt. An easy computation gives (λ−A)B=I. Therefore λ∈ρ(A).
This gives that ρ(A)=C and hence σ(A)=∅.
Dear Sahiba,
thanks for your nice solution.
Best regards
Sascha
Dear Isem-Team,
a minor remark:
p.20, l.9: I think the stated equality should instead be an inequality since we have
∑∞k=0‖(λ−μ)(λ−A)−1‖k=‖(λ−μ)(λ−A)−1‖1−‖(λ−μ)(λ−A)−1‖<11−‖(λ−μ)(λ−A)−1‖.
Best wishes,
Fabian
Dear Fabian,
thanks for your comment! I have difficulties to understand your remark, though. We have ∑∞k=0qk=11−q given |q|<1. Summing from k=1 instead of k=0 would result in your formula. In the given situation, we need to start summation from k=0, though.
Best regards,
moppi
Dear Moppi,
thanks for your reply and pointing out my mistake. Apparently I misread the sum.
Best wishes, Fabian
Dear all,
here are some more comments from Bremen.
1. On page 12, line -7 I would just say that A is called linear if it is a linear subspace of X0×X1 (even though this sounds rather tautological).
2. The equality (2.1) follows from the first equality in Theorem 2.2.5, applied to the relation A−1: One obtains (ranA−1)⊥=ker(A−1)∗ and thus (domA)⊥=ker(A∗)−1=A∗[{0}].
3. I find the proof of Lemma 2.2.8 remarkable; the only proof I know uses the Fréchet-Riesz theorem, and it appears that this is not needed here. (Of course the projection theorem is used, which is not too far away from the Fréchet-Riesz theorem, but I still find the proof given here very nice.)
4. For Corollary 2.3.3 I was tempted to use Lemma 2.2.7, but unfortunately this is not possible since 2.2.7 assumes linearity while 2.3.3 does not.
Best wishes, Hendrik
Dear Hendrik,
1. I like your version more than our's; so I think we'll change that in the final version. Thanks.
2. Nice. Thanks!
3. Thanks!
4. Good point! Apparently, we forgot to highlight that (2.1) also holds for arbitrary relations: In fact, (2.1) for linear relations implies (2.1) for arbitrary relations. Indeed, let B⊆H0×H1 be a relation; define B:=linA. Then dom(B)=lindom(A). Also, we have A∗=−(A⊥)−1=−(B⊥)−1=B∗. With these preparations, we can write dom(A)⊥=(lindom(A))⊥=dom(B)⊥={v∈H0;(0,v)∈B∗}={v∈H0;(0,v)∈A∗}. Now, as in the proof of Lemma 2.2.7, we see that the validity of (2.1) readily implies the equivalence A∗ is an operator⟺A is densely defined.
Best regards,
moppi
Dear Moppi,
regarding 4.: Indeed, (2.1) holds always (as does the first equality in Theorem 2.2.5!) However, your concluded equivalence does not hold! Only the implication “A densely defined ⟹ A∗ operator” is always valid; for the other implication you need linearity. But this is fine for Corollary 2.3.3
Best wishes, Hendrik
Dear Hendrik,
ah, yes! I was too quick on this one: dom(A)⊥={0} can very well hold for non-vector space subsets dom(A) that are not dense (e.g. the unit ball). So for not necessarily linear relations A densely defined needs to be replaced by dom(A) is total. (I refuse calling this `totally defined'.)
Thank you!
Best regards,
moppi
Dear all,
here are a few comments from Bremen.
1. At the beginning of Section 2.1 I get the impression that a “bounded linear operator” from X0 to X1 is always defined on all of X0. This is in conflict with the later usage of “bounded”, e.g. in Lemma 2.1.3 and Corollary 2.1.5, where the operator need not be defined on all of X0.
2. Corollary 2.1.5 in this form is new to me – I like it
3. Is is mentioned anywhere that a bounded linear relation is always an operator? I found this helpful for Corollary 2.1.5.
4. I find it a bit odd that linearity of A∗+B∗ is mentioned in Corollary 2.3.3 but not in Theorem 2.3.2.
5. I would write down the proof of Proposition 2.3.8 like this, with the abbreviation A|D:=A∩(D×H1): D core⟺¯A|D=¯A⟺¯A|D⊥=¯A⊥⟺(A|D)⊥=A⊥⟺(A|D)∗=A∗.
Best wishes, Hendrik
Dear Hendrik,
thank you for your comments from Bremen.
1. We actually had the same impression in an earlier version of the manuscript. That is why we introduced `continuous'. Maybe a solution would be to abandon the word `bounded' in this motivational section altogether.
2. Thanks. ;)
3. No, we haven't mentioned this anywhere. Thanks for pointing this out. I do not see how this is of immediate help, though, as A is assumed to be an operator to begin with. However, this fact would immediately strengthen the statement in Corollary 2.1.5 as you would not need to assume that A is an operator.
4. You are right. Our emphasis in Corollary 2.3.3, however, was rather on `operator' and not so much on `linear'. One should skip `linear' in Corollary 2.3.3 then,
5. This is very nice. This is better than our proof. Thank you!
Best regards,
MM
Dear Moppi,
1. This sounds like a good idea
3. What I mean is the proof of Corollary 2.1.5: You'll only have to show that ¯A is bounded; then it immediately follows that it is an operator, and with the help of Lemma 2.1.3 one sees that the domain is X0.
Best wishes, Hendrik
Dear Hendrik,
3. Ah, yes! Right on the money, thanks!
Regards,
moppi
Dear virtual lectures,
here are some minor remarks from our group meeting in Darmstadt.
We thought that for consistency with Lecture 1 the title of the lecture should be “Unbounded Operators” and similarly in the other headings in this lecture.
On p.12 after the definition of L(X0,X1) we wondered whether there are unbounded operators defined on whole of X0 and, using the axiom of choice (to construct a Hamel basis), came up with an example. It was not clear to us whether an example of such an operator can be constructed without choice. Maybe a formulation like: “… the latter only need to be defined on a subset of X0” would clarify that unbounded operators can be defined on the whole space, too.
p.13 l.1: for consistency reasons one might consider to change the order of “composition” and “scalar multiples” so that it fits with the order in the definition.
In Proposition 2.1.1. we were not sure whether there are any additional, reasonable assumptions under which CA would be closed, too.
on p.14 l.6: we think that it should be “as a Banach space in its own right”.
on p.20 l.-3: We think that there got a (m) missing and that it should be “If V≠0 μ-a.e. then V(m) is injective…” (instead of “V is injective”).
Best, Jonas
Dear Jonas, dear Darmstadt team,
thanks for your remarks. We will correct the lecture according to your suggestions.
Concerning the question of closedness of CA, I am only aware of the assumption that C should be boundedly invertible, i.e., 0∈ρ(C).
Best regards
Sascha
Dear Jonas,
it appears that your construction concerning an unbounded operator defined on the whole of X0 necessitates the axiom of choice. Although I have not found a very good reference for this, I found the article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discontinuous_linear_map
rather illuminating. For this, see in particular the section `Role of the axiom of choice'.
Best regards,
MM
Dear Nathanael,
I think that the remark on the multivalued part has been alluded to in the notes already, despite not being explicated. When it says that we call a linear relation A a linear operator if
A[{0}]={y∈X1:(0,y)∈A}={0}.
The point is that, if this set coincides not just with {0}, then we would be dealing with the “multivalued part” of the operator.
Despite not being needed for what follows, it's interesting nonetheless to delve into. I really like the presentation in Arens on these ideas.
Cheers,
Michael
I want to mention that it might be a good idea to complement the notion ker, ran, and dom for a linear relation T between X0 and X1 by the multi-value part mulT={y∈X1:(0,y)∈T}. This highlights the duality of ker, ran and mul, dom.
Dear Nathanael,
thank you for your remark. You are right, it indeed highlights the duality between the concepts mentioned. For now, we refrained from introducing mul, because we have no application for this in mind in the lectures to come. Yet, it is a good point to raise, anyway.
Best regards,
MM