here are some minor remarks from our group meeting in Darmstadt.
p. 2 l. -6: We were not sure whether it is more common to refer to the convolution kernel of the semigroup as the fundamental solution (in the case of the initial value problem)?
Last sentence of Section 1.1 (starting with “We emphasise …”): We didn't get what you want to say here…
Paragraph after the first displayed formula in Section 1.3: The explanation of M(∂t) is unclear. Maybe it is just a matter of punctuation: Do you mean that M is an analytic function on some open subset of C with values in the bounded operators between Hilbert spaces in which we can plug in ∂t e.g. via its sectorial functional calculus? Then we recommand adding a colon after “is” and removing the comma before M (or rewriting the whole sentence in a better understandable way).
Third line over “Wave Equation”: We recommand to write “spatial” instead of “spacial” for consistency reasons.
Reformulation of the wave equation: It seems to us like you had to add the second (tautological) equation only to ensure that the equation fits into your framework. Is this correct or is there a deeper reason or explanation from a methological point of view that explains this second line?
Exercise 1.1: Just curious: Some of us think they have seen this assertion with merely measurability instead of continuity. Maybe someone has a reference or construction of a counterexample for this modified version at hand and can provide it to us.
Best,
Sebastian
Sascha Trostorff, 2019/10/26 15:26
Dear Sebastian,
thanks a lot for your remarks. Concerning your questions:
Yes, it is maybe more appropriate to call the heat kernel the fundamental solution.
With the last sentence in Section 1.1 we want to emphasise that in semigroup theory the time direction is treated in a different way than the spatial dimensions. For instance, you demand the solution to be continuous with respect to time, while in the spatial dimension you allow for L2. That is what we mean by an interpretation as an ordinary differential equation in an infinite dimensional state space. In the framework presented in this ISEM we will not distinguish between time an space in that way and develop a L2 solution theory in space-time.
Concerning your question on the wave equation: yes, we just want to formulate the equation as a first order system (just like you do it in the semigroup case).
It is true that the statement of exercise 1.1 also holds true if one just assumes measurablilty. Unfortunately, I am not aware of a reference. Maybe some participant knows one.
Best regards
Sascha
Marcus Waurick, 2019/10/28 10:30
Dear Sebastian,
Just a remark concerning the measurability question. I also do not know any proper reference to the literature. However, you can find some hints for the proof that measurability is enough under the link
Also, I wanted to point out that you are completely right concerning M(∂t). We mean (and we will make this more precise later on) that for some Hilbert space H,
M:dom(M)⊆C→L(H)
is analytic. By some functional calculus for ∂t, we can then define M(∂t) as operator acting in space-time.
Best regards,
MM
Jürgen Voigt, 2019/11/07 12:51
Dear Sebastian,
concerning Exercise 1.1: google “cauchy_eng4” (found by Burkhard Claus from Dresden). There, it's in Section 4.
Best wishes, Jürgen
Sebastian Bechtel, 2019/11/14 15:25
Dear Jürgen,
sorry for the late reply. I had a look into your reference, however, as far as I can tell they deal with the functional equation f(x+y)=f(x)+f(y). Of course I can compose this with the exponential function, but how is it then clear the composition does not become measurable?
Best, Sebastian
Hendrik Vogt, 2019/10/24 15:39
Dear all,
I've got a question regarding the wave equation near the bottom of page 6. The wave equation together with the definitions of v and q (which amounts to three equations in total) are transformed into a system of two equations, which means that one equation is lost. In which sense is the wave equation equivalent to the system of two equations?
Best wishes, Hendrik
Sascha Trostorff, 2019/10/25 10:11
Dear Hendrik,
the original unknown u can be recovered by integrating v. In Lecture 3 we will make this precise by defining the time derivative as a continuously invertible operator, so that in the wave equation in the second order form u=∂−1tv.
I hope this answers your question.
Best regards
Sascha
Hendrik Vogt, 2019/10/28 11:42
Dear Sascha,
thank you! I guess this is a partial answer. After reading what Sebastian wrote I understand it like this: you add a tautological equation to make a system of two equations out of the wave equation, so what I wrote with one equation being “lost” was not correct. Then one obtains u=∂−1tv as you wrote (and from this one could obtain q if desired). Did I get it right?
Best wishes, Hendrik
Sascha Trostorff, 2019/10/28 11:55
Dear Hendrik,
yes, this is what I meant. However, you would obtain q for free out of the equation, since you solve the whole system (of two equations) at once. So, your “state variables” would be v and q, while in the classical first-order formulation in semigroup theory, the states would be u and v.
Best regards
Sascha
Hendrik Vogt, 2019/10/28 12:24
Dear Sascha,
great, thanks! I really was a bit puzzled by this, but now I'm un-puzzled.
Best wishes, Hendrik
Fiki Taufik Akbar Sobar, 2019/10/23 14:17, 2019/10/23 15:42
Since I solved problem 1 differently from the posted solution, then I will post my solution here. If somebody has a comment or spotted a mistake, please reply or leave a comment on this forum. Thank you.
Since ϕ(t)ϕ(−t)=1, then we only need consider t≥0. First, we claim that ϕ(t)≥0 for all t≥0. Assume that ϕ(t1)<0 for some t1>0. Since ϕ(0)=1 and ϕ is continuous, then there exist t2∈(0,t1) such that ϕ(t2)=0. However,
ϕ(t1)=ϕ(t1−t2+t2)=ϕ(t1−t2)ϕ(t2)=0,
which contradict with assumption ϕ(t1)<0, hence ϕ(t)≥0 for all t≥0.
Now, define
ψ(t):=∫t0ϕ(s)ds;.
The function ψ(t) is non decreasing function, differentiable with dψdt=ϕ(t), and in particular limt→0+ψ(t)t=ϕ(0)=1. Thus, for some small t0>0, ψ(t0)≠0, then we can write
ϕ(t)=ψ−1(t0)ψ(t0)ϕ(t)=ψ−1(t0)∫t0ψ(s+t)ds=ψ−1(t0)∫t+t0tψ(s)ds=ψ−1(t0)[ψ(t0+t)−ψ(t)].
Then ϕ is differentiable with derivative,
dϕdt=limh→0+[ϕ(h)−1h]ϕ(t)=limh→0+ψ−1(t0)[ψ(t0−h)−ψ(t0)h−ψ(h)h]ϕ(t)=ψ−1(t0)[ϕ(t0)−1]ϕ(t).
If we set α=ψ−1(t0)[ϕ(t0)−1]∈R, then ϕ satisfies differential equation
{dϕdt=αϕϕ(0)=1
thus, we have
ϕ(t)=eαt.
Christian Seifert, 2019/10/23 15:00, 2019/10/23 15:01
Dear Fiki Taufik Akbar Sobar,
You mean
ψ(t):=∫t0ϕ(s)ds,
right?!
Best, Christian
Fiki Taufik Akbar Sobar, 2019/10/23 15:42
Ah yes, that is what I mean. I will correct it.
Thank you.
Regards, Fiki
Christian Seifert, 2019/10/21 16:47
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Discussion on Lecture 01
Dear virtual lecturers,
here are some minor remarks from our group meeting in Darmstadt.
p. 2 l. -6: We were not sure whether it is more common to refer to the convolution kernel of the semigroup as the fundamental solution (in the case of the initial value problem)?
Last sentence of Section 1.1 (starting with “We emphasise …”): We didn't get what you want to say here…
Paragraph after the first displayed formula in Section 1.3: The explanation of M(∂t) is unclear. Maybe it is just a matter of punctuation: Do you mean that M is an analytic function on some open subset of C with values in the bounded operators between Hilbert spaces in which we can plug in ∂t e.g. via its sectorial functional calculus? Then we recommand adding a colon after “is” and removing the comma before M (or rewriting the whole sentence in a better understandable way).
Third line over “Wave Equation”: We recommand to write “spatial” instead of “spacial” for consistency reasons.
Reformulation of the wave equation: It seems to us like you had to add the second (tautological) equation only to ensure that the equation fits into your framework. Is this correct or is there a deeper reason or explanation from a methological point of view that explains this second line?
Exercise 1.1: Just curious: Some of us think they have seen this assertion with merely measurability instead of continuity. Maybe someone has a reference or construction of a counterexample for this modified version at hand and can provide it to us.
Best, Sebastian
Dear Sebastian,
thanks a lot for your remarks. Concerning your questions:
Yes, it is maybe more appropriate to call the heat kernel the fundamental solution.
With the last sentence in Section 1.1 we want to emphasise that in semigroup theory the time direction is treated in a different way than the spatial dimensions. For instance, you demand the solution to be continuous with respect to time, while in the spatial dimension you allow for L2. That is what we mean by an interpretation as an ordinary differential equation in an infinite dimensional state space. In the framework presented in this ISEM we will not distinguish between time an space in that way and develop a L2 solution theory in space-time.
Concerning your question on the wave equation: yes, we just want to formulate the equation as a first order system (just like you do it in the semigroup case).
It is true that the statement of exercise 1.1 also holds true if one just assumes measurablilty. Unfortunately, I am not aware of a reference. Maybe some participant knows one.
Best regards
Sascha
Dear Sebastian,
Just a remark concerning the measurability question. I also do not know any proper reference to the literature. However, you can find some hints for the proof that measurability is enough under the link
http://www.math.tu-dresden.de/~voigt/lehre/uebungen/pdg2-ws07/pdg2_05.pdf
Unfortunately, this is only in German, though.
Also, I wanted to point out that you are completely right concerning M(∂t). We mean (and we will make this more precise later on) that for some Hilbert space H, M:dom(M)⊆C→L(H) is analytic. By some functional calculus for ∂t, we can then define M(∂t) as operator acting in space-time.
Best regards,
MM
Dear Sebastian,
concerning Exercise 1.1: google “cauchy_eng4” (found by Burkhard Claus from Dresden). There, it's in Section 4.
Best wishes, Jürgen
Dear Jürgen,
sorry for the late reply. I had a look into your reference, however, as far as I can tell they deal with the functional equation f(x+y)=f(x)+f(y). Of course I can compose this with the exponential function, but how is it then clear the composition does not become measurable?
Best, Sebastian
Dear all,
I've got a question regarding the wave equation near the bottom of page 6. The wave equation together with the definitions of v and q (which amounts to three equations in total) are transformed into a system of two equations, which means that one equation is lost. In which sense is the wave equation equivalent to the system of two equations?
Best wishes, Hendrik
Dear Hendrik,
the original unknown u can be recovered by integrating v. In Lecture 3 we will make this precise by defining the time derivative as a continuously invertible operator, so that in the wave equation in the second order form u=∂−1tv.
I hope this answers your question.
Best regards
Sascha
Dear Sascha,
thank you! I guess this is a partial answer. After reading what Sebastian wrote I understand it like this: you add a tautological equation to make a system of two equations out of the wave equation, so what I wrote with one equation being “lost” was not correct. Then one obtains u=∂−1tv as you wrote (and from this one could obtain q if desired). Did I get it right?
Best wishes, Hendrik
Dear Hendrik,
yes, this is what I meant. However, you would obtain q for free out of the equation, since you solve the whole system (of two equations) at once. So, your “state variables” would be v and q, while in the classical first-order formulation in semigroup theory, the states would be u and v.
Best regards
Sascha
Dear Sascha,
great, thanks! I really was a bit puzzled by this, but now I'm un-puzzled.
Best wishes, Hendrik
Since I solved problem 1 differently from the posted solution, then I will post my solution here. If somebody has a comment or spotted a mistake, please reply or leave a comment on this forum. Thank you.
Since ϕ(t)ϕ(−t)=1, then we only need consider t≥0. First, we claim that ϕ(t)≥0 for all t≥0. Assume that ϕ(t1)<0 for some t1>0. Since ϕ(0)=1 and ϕ is continuous, then there exist t2∈(0,t1) such that ϕ(t2)=0. However, ϕ(t1)=ϕ(t1−t2+t2)=ϕ(t1−t2)ϕ(t2)=0, which contradict with assumption ϕ(t1)<0, hence ϕ(t)≥0 for all t≥0.
Now, define ψ(t):=∫t0ϕ(s)ds;. The function ψ(t) is non decreasing function, differentiable with dψdt=ϕ(t), and in particular limt→0+ψ(t)t=ϕ(0)=1. Thus, for some small t0>0, ψ(t0)≠0, then we can write ϕ(t)=ψ−1(t0)ψ(t0)ϕ(t)=ψ−1(t0)∫t0ψ(s+t)ds=ψ−1(t0)∫t+t0tψ(s)ds=ψ−1(t0)[ψ(t0+t)−ψ(t)]. Then ϕ is differentiable with derivative, dϕdt=limh→0+[ϕ(h)−1h]ϕ(t)=limh→0+ψ−1(t0)[ψ(t0−h)−ψ(t0)h−ψ(h)h]ϕ(t)=ψ−1(t0)[ϕ(t0)−1]ϕ(t).
If we set α=ψ−1(t0)[ϕ(t0)−1]∈R, then ϕ satisfies differential equation {dϕdt=αϕϕ(0)=1 thus, we have ϕ(t)=eαt.
Dear Fiki Taufik Akbar Sobar,
You mean ψ(t):=∫t0ϕ(s)ds, right?!
Best, Christian
Ah yes, that is what I mean. I will correct it.
Thank you. Regards, Fiki
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